There's an episode of Futurama where Bender floats away in space and Fry wants to find him. So, Fry goes to the church and asks the minister, is there anything we can do to find Bender? and the minister says, "we can pray." Then Fry says, "Is there anything we can really do to find Bender?" The minster responds, "NO"
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Did Prayer work for you, or not?
by gaiagirl injws, and christians in genreral, are taught that god answers prayers of sincere believers.
on the other hand, there is a popular bumpersticker which reads "nothing fails like prayer".. what has been your experience in this regard?
did god answer your most heartfelt prayers, or were they ignored?.
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Did Prayer work for you, or not?
by gaiagirl injws, and christians in genreral, are taught that god answers prayers of sincere believers.
on the other hand, there is a popular bumpersticker which reads "nothing fails like prayer".. what has been your experience in this regard?
did god answer your most heartfelt prayers, or were they ignored?.
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No, but i never really prayed much. When i first left the organization i told my mother that i didn't believe in god and she responded by telling me to pray more. Think of how illogical that is.
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Jehovah's Witnesses are NOT stupid!
by nicolaou inafter several years 'out' i can't be the only one who still gets a bit pissed off to hear 'oh so clever' apostates slagging off jw's for being dumb, stupid and worse.
grow up!
the beliefs of jehovah's witnesses are certainly stupid but then i'd say the same for all christian belief just as many of you might condemn my atheistic, evolutionary postion as being nonsense.
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JW's seem to have a cross section of liabilities. It astounds me how gullible they can be. My excuse is also being raised in it, so I often wonder why my parents got involved and my only answer could be untreated mental illness and the Vietnam war. After all my father didn't want to go to war (which is smart), so I think he either lost his mind then became a "minister". As far as being stupid, it is a very narrow description.
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Flaky JWs drag down the Cong Performance Stats. Doncha' hate that? ;-)
by Open mind insome quick advice for faders re: level of field service activity.
btw, this assumes you have no problem turning in "fluffed up" hours as part of a reverse "theocratic warfare" strategy.
if you really don't care one way or the other whether you turn in a field service report, turn one in at least every 6 months with one hour of "time" on it.
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i used to report so much time and really never went out in service. sometimes i'd report 90 or 100 hours a month and maybe actually went out 2 or 3 hours.
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The angst of dealing with family when they are still in and you are not...
by Layla33 ini don't think you ever truly make peace with it, somehow you learn to maneveur and swim in it like most things.
i have been out for so long, it's almost like a shadowy memory when i was in, but for my family it is all they have ever known and dared to know.. i feel for the people whose parents have cut them out completely, but mine never truly did that.
i guess we just loved each other a little too much to even think about losing the other completely.
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The only family member that still contacts me is my mother. When I first left, i entered therapy and my mother warned me by saying that the therapist may "tell me not to talk to my family." Well, I thought about it for a second and said back to her, "Isn't that what the organization tells you to do to me?" She was stunned and couldn't respond. I have since decided to shun my family in return. It is definitely better for my mental health.
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What are your lame memories of events growing up as a J-Dub?
by superman insorry this post is so long but i had to tell this story like most of you here, i grew up as a j-dub and have many memories of many extremely lame events that we had to endure (mainly because of some bone-headed elder, or holier-then-thou pioneer).
i'll never forget probably one of the lamest things that took place growing up as a j-dub.
this one kid (bless his heart, he really tried hard to be cool) in a neighboring hall tried to throw a get-together for all of the young kids in the different local halls.
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Everything was lame. My group of jw friends never did anything really bad, but were in trouble all the time. Constantly talked to about playing music in a band, alcohol on our breathe, even when we didn't drink, and all sorts of other bull shit. We really had to will our way to have a fulfilling social life.
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JW's and antidepressants
by karter inmy jw wife was telling me how much better a sister was now shes on prozac it turns out half the congo is on it .
it appears jehovah's happy people are not so happy after all.
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It seems like people become JW's because they have mental issues or they develop mental issues because they are JW's. My parents joined because they had mental issues and I have mental issues because I was raised in it. I am on prozac.
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No, they are bible scholars in the tradition of one, Frederick William Franz.
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I have been Labeled
by The Doc 58 init has finally happened after a year of not attending meetings and so forth.
my cousin emailed me and said that he heard i was an apostate.
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It has finally happened after a year of not attending meetings and so forth. My cousin emailed me and said that he heard I was an apostate.
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Did you see Jones town last night ?
by mouthy init was horrible.
i had seen before a documentry about it.
also i had read the book.
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sorry to change the subject a little, but a really good band is the brian jonestown massacre. www.brianjonestownmassacre.com
kind of a sixties retro band from california.